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Sti mmàggini sunnu candidati pâ vitrina. Stari accura di nun cunfùnniri sta pàggina chê mmàggini dô jornu.

Passa â lista di candidati Vai a:

Guida[edit]

Candidari na mmàggini[edit]

Lìnii guida pi candidari na mmàggini[edit]

È mpurtanti lèggiri li lìnii guida prima di candidari na mmàggini.

A sèguitu è ripurtatu un riassuntu dê punti essinziali pi candidari e valutari li mmàggini candidati:

  • Risuluzzioni - Li fotugrafìi cu na risuluzzioni nfiriuri a 2 miliuna di pixel vennu giniralmenti rifiutati e livati a eccizzioni di mutivi cuntrari di mpurtanza particulari. Si nota ca li mmàggini cu risuluzzioni 1600 x 1200 hannu 1.92 Mpx, appena nfiriuri ô lìmiti mìnimu di 2Mpx.
Arricurdamu ca li mmàggini carricati nta Commons vennu taliati nun sulu nta schermi tradizziunali di PC ma sunnu utilizzati puru pi stampa e visualizzazzioni nta schermi a risuluzzioni àuta. Nun putemu certu privìdiri quali ticnoluggìi vennu utilizzati ntô futuru quinni è mpurtanti ca li mmàggini scigghiuti pâ vitrina hàianu na risuluzzioni quantu chiù àuta è pussìbbili.
  • Scanzioni - È cunzigghiàbbili siguiri la guida â scanzioni, ca pruponi suggirimenti pi l'ottinimentu di mmàggini ottimali
  • Focu - ovviamenti ogni oggettu significativu dâ mmàggini havi a èssiri difinutu bonu e a focu.
  • Primu pianu e sfunnu - Oggetti n primìssimu pianu o di sfunnu ponnu distràiri dâ vista di l'oggettu principali dâ mmàggini. È lu casu di cuntrullari si quarchi elimentu n primu pianu nun copri nuddu elimentu mpurtanti e ca lu sfunnu nun leva l'attinzioni e renni cunfusa la mmàggini (p'esempiu evitari ca c'è na luci forti ê spaddi di na facci)
  • Qualità ginirali - li mmàggini candidati hannu a èssiri di qualità tècnica àuta.
  • Li manipulazzioni diggitali nun hannu a èssiri effittuati pi ngannari, ma vannu usati sulu limitatamenti e cu cura pi currèggiri difetti fotugràfici. Li manipulazzioni cumunimenti accittati sunnu lu ritagghiu e la currizzioni di pruspittiva, fucali, culuri e espusizzioni. Manipulazzioni chiù estisi, comu pò èssiri la livata di n'elimentu di distrazzioni dô sfunnu, vannu chiaramenti discrivuti ntô testu di discrizzioni pi menzu dô template {{Retouched picture}}. Manipulazzioni nun discrivuti o discrivuti n manera nzufficienti nun pirmèttinu la candidatura â vitrina.
  • Valuri - lu nostru obbiettivu principali è elèggiri li mmàggini cô maiuri valuri rispettu a tutti li sò sìmili. Li mmàggini hannu a èssiri n quarchi manera spiciali, pirciò teni accura:
    • quasi tutti li scurati sunnu esteticamenti piacèvuli, nfatti tanti mmàggini sunnu sìmili a l'àutri,
    • li scatti nutturni sunnu gradèvuli ma giniralmenti li fotu scattati di jornu ammùstranu tanti chiù dittagghi,
    • nun tutti li fotu beddi hannu n rialtà un valuri ca nun è esclusivamenti pirsunali.

Pi quantu arriguarda l'aspettu tècnicu avemu comu paràmitri l'espusizzioni, la cumpusizzioni, lu cuntrollu dô muvimentu e la prufunnità di campu.

  • L'espusizzioni s'arrifirisci â cumminazzioni ntra tempu d'espusizzioni e diaframma. Sta cumminazzioni pirmetti giniralmenti d'aviri na curva di tonu ch'è n gradu di rapprisintari ùmmiri e luci cu un dittagghiu accittàbbili. Sta curva veni ditta latitùdini di posa. Na mmàggini pò èssiri ntâ banna vascia, media o àuta. Li fotucàmiri diggitali (e li sò fotu) hannu na latitùdini di posa chiù stritta dâ màchini a pillìcula. La mancanza di dittagghi ntê zoni d'ùmmira nun è nicissariamenti na carattirìstica nigativa. Nfatti chista pò èssiri parti di l'effettu addisiatu, mentri zoni ampii eccissivamenti suvraesposti ponnu distràiri la vista.
  • La cumpusizzioni s'arrifirisci â distribbuzzioni di l'elimenti ntâ mmàggini. La “Règula dê Terzi” è na lìnia guida bona pâ cumpusizzioni e rèdita tantu dê studi di disignu. Lu cuncettu principali cunzìdira la mmàggini divisa cu dui lìnii orizzuntali e dui virticali, ca divìdinu la mmàggini n tri parti. Giniralmenti si l'oggettu veni cintratu s'havi n'effettu picca ntirissanti, mentri si l'oggettu veni pusizziunatu nta unu dê punti di ntiressi, ovveru la ntirsizzioni dê quattru lìnii, s'otteni n'effettu dicisamenti megghiu. Li lìnii di l'orizzonti nfatti nun avìssiru a èssiri pusizziunati ntô centru, pirchì tagghiàssiru la fotu a mità; è nveci prifirìbbili scègghiri una dê lìnii orizzuntali. Cumplissivamenti abbisogna tènniri a criari na mmàggini dinàmica.
  • Lu cuntrollu dô muvimentu s'arrifirisci â manera ca veni rapprisintatu lu muvimentu ntâ mmàggini. Lu muvimentu pò èssiri bluccatu (siguitu dâ fotucàmira) oppuru pò èssiri lassatu scùrriri, tuttavìa l'oggettu principali dâ mmàggini havi a èssiri visìbbili. Nudda dê dui tècnichi è megghia di l'àutra, l'arrinisciuta bona addipenni esclusivamenti dô tipu d'effettu arricircatu. P'esempiu, fotugrafannu na vittura di cursa c'appari stàtica n rilazzioni ô sfunnu, ca nveci scurri ntô retru, s'otteni l'oggettu principali nta na cunnizzioni stàtica mentri lu sfunnu crea lu senzu di muvimentu. (sta tècnica è chiamata "panning"). D'àutra parti, fotugrafannu un jucaturi di basket n sàutu, bluccatu n rilazzioni a tuttu lu restu dô sfunnu, s'ottinissi un scattu bonu propiu pâ posa nun naturali.
  • La prufunnità di campu (PdC o DOF dô ngrisi depth of field) è la distanza davanti e darreri lu suggettu principali c'appari nìtida (a focu). Stu paràmitru veni scigghiutu a sicunna dê nicissità d'ogni mmàggini e pò parimenti migghiurari o mpijurari la qualità di na fotugrafìa. Giniralmenti veni utilizzata na PdC arriduciuta pi mèttiri ô centru di l'attinzioni lu suggettu principali, siparànnulu di tuttu lu restu dô sfunnu. Nveci veni utilizzata na PdC granni p'enfatizzari la prufunnità di na mmàggini. L'obbiettivi grannangulari n gèniri na PdC granni mentri li tiliobbiettivi nn'hannu una dicisamenti arriduciuta. N granni parti la PdC addipenni dâ grapitura dô diaframma: aumenta cô diminuiri dâ grapitura e viciversa.

Pi quantu arriguarda l'aspettuo gràficu pigghiamu nveci n cunzidirazzioni nitidizza, prufunnità, culuri, supirficii, pruspittiva, valanzamentu, prupurzioni, ecc.

  • La nitidizza s'arrifirisci a lìnii di cuntornu dô suggettu principali.
  • La prufunnità s'arrifirisci â qualità di l'aspettu tridiminziunali dô suggettu. Chistu s'otteni suprattuttu tràmiti na lluminazzioni latirali adiguata (comu chidda dâ prima matinata o dô tardu pumiriggiu) e nun esclusivamenti fruntali, ô fini d'evitari l'appiattimentu dô suggettu.
  • Lu culuri è n'elimentu assai mpurtanti e nun havi a èssiri nè troppu nè picca sàturu.
  • La supirficii s'arrifirisci â qualità dâ supirficii di l'oggetti fotugrafati.
  • La pruspittiva s'arrifirisci a l'angulazzioni dâ quali fu scattata la fotugrafìa. Chista crea na serii di ritti mmagginarii ca sèguinu li spìguli paralleli di l'oggetti e si ncòntranu ntôn puntu ca pò èssiri dintra o fora la mmàggini.
  • Lu valanzamentu s'arrifirisci â dispusizzioni di l'oggetti ntâ mmàggini e pò èssiri equilibbratu o pòniri pisu maiuri versu na dirizzioni.
  • La prupurzioni s'arrifirisci â rilazzioni ntra li diminzioni di l'oggetti ô nternu dâ mmàggini. Giniralmenti si tenni a rapprisintari oggetti cu rilazzioni arriduciuta, ma na tècnica bona è chidda di rapprisintari l'oggetti di diminzioni minuri n manera chiù estisa, cuntrariamenti a quantu è n rialtà. P'esempiu, un ciuri nicu ca veni rapprisintatu chê stissi diminzioni di na muntagna granni: sta tècnica veni chiamata nvirsioni di scala.
Ovviamenti, nun tutti li carattirìstichi hannu a èssiri nicissariamenti prisenti. Li mmàggini ponnu èssiri giudicati sia pi na sula carattirìstica ca pi diversi carattirìstichi, macari cuntimpuraniamenti.
  • Significatu simmòlicu o rilivanza particulari …Li guerri d'opinioni ponnu accuminzari!…. Va arricurdatu ca na pèssima fotugrafìa dûn suggettu difficilìssimu di fotugrafari è sicuramenti megghiu di na mmàggini ordinaria e tradizziunali (comu na scurata cumuni).
Li mmàggini ponnu èssiri scigghiuti dûn fotògrafu o di n'ossirvaturi macari pi mutivi culturali, tinennu pirò sempri cuntu dô cuntestu dô scattu e nun di chiddu di l'ossirvaturi. Na mmàggini noltri pò "parrari" ê pirsuni e aviri la capacità d'evucari emuzzioni, ca tuttavìa nun hannu a èssiri nicissariamenti piacèvuli.

P'ottimizzari le pussibbilità di successu dê candidaturi dê tò mmàggini è cunzigghiàbbili lèggire li lìnii guida cumpleti.

Comu candidari na mmàggini[edit]

Si cridi d'aviri attruvatu o criatu na mmàggini ca pò èssiri pigghiata n cunzidirazzioni pâ vitrina, c'havi na discrizzioni apprupiata e na licenza adiguata, allura segui sti nnicazzioni.

Puntu 1: copia lu nomu dâ mmàggini dintra la casedda di testu (ncludennu macari lu prifissu Image: ) a sèguitu dô testu già prisenti ntâ casedda (p'esempiu Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:LU-NOMU-DÂ-TÒ-MMÀGGINI.JPG.) e nfini clicca lu pulsanti càndida na mmàggini nova.


Puntu 2: segui li struzzioni dâ pàggina â quali veni culligatu e sarva li canciamenti appurtati.

Puntu 3: nzirisci manualmenti un culligamentu â pàggina criata n cima â lista candidati: Clicca ccà e agghiunci lu testu ca segui a l'accuminzagghia dâ lista di candidaturi:

{{Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:LU-NOMU-DÂ-TÒ-MMÀGGINI.JPG}}

Vutari[edit]

Pi vutari poi usari li templates siguenti:

  • {{A favuri}} ( Support) pi suppurtari la candidatura,
  • {{Cuntrariu}} ( Oppose) p'oppunìrisi â candidatura,
  • {{Niutrali}} ( Neutral) p'esprìmiri un pariri niutrali,
  • {{Cummentu}} ( Comment) p'esprìmiri sulu un cummentu,
  • {{Nfurmazzioni}} ( Info) p'agghiùnciri dê nfurmazzioni c'arriguàrdanu la mmàggini,
  • {{Addumannata}} ( Question) p'addumannari nfurmazzioni.

Poi noltri evidinziari ca la mmàggini nun havi pussibbilità d'èssiri eliggiuta cô template {{FPX|mutivu}}, nzirennu ô postu di mutivu li raggiuni pê quali è chiaramenti nun accittàbbili pâ vitrina.

Ogni vutanti è prijatu di mutivari lu propiu votu cu quarchi palora, n manera particulari si si vota contra. Arricorda noltri d'agghiùnciri la tò firma (~~~~). Li voti anònimi nun sunnu accittati.

Candidari na mmàggini â livata dâ vitrina[edit]

Li standard dâ vitrina càncianu cô tempu. Pò succèdiri ca na mmàggini c'avìa statu eliggiuta pâ vitrina nun è chiù adatta ê standard attuali.

Sta lista è pirciò cumposta dê mmàggini cunzidirati nun chiù adatti a ristari ntâ vitrina. Vota:

  • {{Mantèniri}}  Keep pi fari sì ca la mmàggini resta ntâ vitrina.
  • {{Livari}}  Oppose pi fari sì ca la mmàggini veni livata dâ vitrina.

Si cunzìdiri ca na mmàggini nun rispetta chiù li criteri dê mmàggini n vitrina, candidala pâ livata cupiannu lu nomu dâ mmàggini dintra sta casedda di testu (ncludennu lu prifissu di l' Image:) a sèguitu dô testu già prisenti n chista:


Ntâ pàggina appena criata ncludi:

  • Li nfurmazzioni supra l'orìggini dâ mmàggini (auturi dâ mmàggini, auturi dâ candidatura);
  • Un culligamentu â candidatura nizziali pô nzirimentu ntâ vitrina (ca va nzirutu sutta ==Collegamenti== ntâ discrizzioni dâ mmàggini);
  • Lu mutivu pô quali l'hai candidata pâ livata dâ vitrina e lu tò Nomu utenti.

Doppu aviri fattu chistu hai a nziriri manualmenti un culligamentu â pàggina criata a l'accuminzata dâ lista di livata dâ vitrina.

Pulìtica d'elizzioni pâ vitrina[edit]

Règuli ginirali[edit]

  1. Lu pirìudu di vutazzioni è di 9 jorna cumpleti, a pàrtiri dâ candidatura. Lu risurtatu veni ditirminatu â fini di stu pirìudu. Li voti agghiunciuti lu dècimu jornu o a sèguitu nun vèninu cunzidirati.
  2. Sunnu bimminuti li cuntribbutura anònimi.
  3. Li cuntribbuti d'anònimi ê discussioni sunnu bimminuti.
  4. Li voti di cuntribbutura anònimi nun sunnu accittati.
  5. La candidatura nun cunta comu votu. Lu votu di supportu va esplicitatu.
  6. L'autura dê candidaturi ponnu ritirari li sò mmàggini candidati n ogni mumentu. Chistu s'otteni scrivennu simplicimenti "I withdraw my nomination" (n ngrisi: ritiru la mè candidatura)
    o agghiuncennu lu testu {{withdraw|~~~~}}.
  7. Arricorda ca l'obbiettivu dô pruggettu Wikimedia Commons è di custruiri na cugghiuta di mmàggini utilizzàbbili di tutti li pruggetti Wikimedia, nclusi pruggetti futuri pussìbbili. Pirciò nun abbisogna pinzari ca chistu è na cugghiuta didicata esclusivamenti ô pruggettu Wikipedia e pi tantu li mmàggini nun vannu valutati n funzioni di chistu.
  8. Li mmàggini vennu livati dâ lista di candidaturi si nun hannu voti a supportu (esclusu chiddu di l'auturi dâ candidatura) intra lu quintu jornu dâ candidatura (La règula dô quintu jornu)
  9. Li mmàggini dutati dô template {{FPX}} nun hannu a èssiri livati dâ lista intra li 48 uri succissivi ô mumentu ntô quali fu applicatu lu template, purchì nun ci sia nuddu votu a supportu oltri chiddu di l'auturi dâ candidatura.

Règuli d'ammissioni e livata dâ vitrina[edit]

Na mmàggini candidata veni ammisa â vitrina si si virìficanu li cunnizioni siguenti:

  1. La licenza è adiguata (ovviamenti).
  2. Si havi armenu 5 voti a supportu.
  3. Si lu rapportu ntra voti pro/contra è armenu 2/1 (si havi dui terzi di maiuranza).
  4. Nun ponnu èssiri ammisi â vitrina diversi virsioni dâ stissa mmàggini, nn'havi a èssiri scigghiuta una sula virsioni.

Li criteri pâ livata dâ vitrina sunnu li stissi pi l'ammissioni a chista, cumprisu lu pirìudu di votu e la règula dô quintu jornu (talìa ntê Règuli ginirali).

Ogni utenti spertu pò purtari a tèrmini na vutazzioni: pi struzzioni supra comu chiùmpiri st'opirazzioni talìa la guida pi purtari a tèrmini la vutazzioni.

Nfini, sî curtisi[edit]

Pi piaciri nun ti scurdari ca la mmàggini ca stai giudicannu è fruttu dô travagghiu di quarchidunu. Èvita d'usari frasi comu è orrìbbili: si t'hai a oppòniri nun fari cunzidirazzioni spiacèvuli. Noltri arricorda ch'è nicissariu scrìviri n ngrisi si voi èssiri cumprisu di l'àutri utenti e ca lu tò utilizzu di sta lingua e chiddu di l'àutri utenti pò comuegghiè ginirari ncumprinzioni si nun s'havi na canuscenza òttima, pirciò scegghi li palori cu cura.

Bonu votu… e arricorda ca.... tutti li règuli ponnu aviri quarchi eccizzioni.

Talìa macari[edit]

Ìnnici[edit]

Candidati pâ vitrina[edit]

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Featured picture candidates[edit]

File:William Shakespeare by John Taylor, edited.jpg[edit]

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William Shakespeare by John Taylor

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Artsy portrait. Ruben Andon: Make up, Body art & hair: Barbara Rizzuti

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Escalators at Helsinki airport train station

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Sandnes City Map
Just a note from a Scandi. These days the languages (Norwegian/Swedish/Danish) spoken and written by Scandinavians contain a lot of English words and expressions, and most of us don't know the difference between pure American and British English. We learn and use a hodgepodge from what we pick up in media, films and tv shows, and try to adapt what we say so that people will understand the meaning rather than true translations. It's sort of the Scandi version of Pidgin English. Hence we use the real names of companies like 'Vinmonopolet' (in Sweden, Systembolaget has the same function) when speaking among foreign friends, but terms like 'Liquor Store' when describing it to the public in general. --Cart (talk) 11:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever it should be called, the Vinmonopolet is nowhere near the shown location from 2022, so you'd never find it using this map. Charlesjsharp (talk) 14:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most maps of larger areas are outdated as soon as they are published. --Cart (talk) 14:25, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jajan pasar
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Hai

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Tour Magdala in Rennes-le-Château, Aude, France

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Jintai Temple in Zhuhai, built in 1992.
Maybe – I'll wait and see what others have to say. --SHB2000 (talk) 09:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those mini-ripples on the water look fine to me. It's what you get when you have a breeze blowing on a lake with no rolling waves. --Cart (talk) 13:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but per the header, only "[e]ditors whose accounts have at least 10 days and 50 edits can vote." Your account only has 24 edits as of 09:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC). --SHB2000 (talk) 09:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Little grebe (Tachybaptus ruficollis) at Tunis Lake

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Path east of Galgenfeldsee

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War memorial plate in Siegendorf

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View of the Cuernos del Paine peaks in the beautiful Torres del Paine national park

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Only silhouettes and bits of skins :-) -- Basile Morin (talk) 10:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relief, carved with the effigy of Ste Cécile represented with her zither, to the right of the portal of the Saint-Martin church. Oxelaëre (Nord, Fr)

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Wild baby alpine chamois and Swiss alps at Creux du van with sunset colors and snow
  • Gallery: Commons:Featured_pictures/Animals/In_their_habitats#Artiodactyla (Even-toed Ungulates)
  •  Info created by Giles Laurent - uploaded by Giles Laurent - nominated by Giles Laurent -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:18, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:18, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support ★ 14:11, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support nice.--Famberhorst (talk) 16:07, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak oppose That dark blurred area on the right spoils the composition IMHO Poco a poco (talk) 17:16, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. I guess you are talking of one of the two trees? They are the reason the chamois were there: close to them the snow is less deep and they can dig the snow with their hooves to eat the grass. The trees are thus part of the habitats of these chamois, which is one of the reasons why the gallery Animals in their habitat was chosen for this picture. Also, I actually personally think that they give a nice touch to the image with their soft colors illuminated by the sunset. Also both trees point to the subject and the chamois clearly stands out with its dark color in this snowy background with soft sunset illuminated colors. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 17:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support From the point of view of the chosen gallery, I think the composition is appropriate. In my opinion, the blurred elements in the foreground and background can be considered a compositional style. -- Radomianin (talk) 19:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support per Radomianin --Terragio67 (talk) 03:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose (regretfully). I have to agree with Poco2 that the blurred area on the right ruins it. --SHB2000 (talk) 10:35, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. I still personally think that the background tree is a nice echo of the foreground tree, giving the viewer a sense of what the foreground tree actually looks like while also beeing relevant to the chamois' environment. Giles Laurent (talk) 13:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's a fair point, but the tree takes the salience. SHB2000 (talk) 22:09, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I still think that the chamois stands out way more than the background tree for multiple reasons : 1) the chamois is the clear subject in the middle of the frame ; 2) the chamois is wearing it's black winter coat which makes it stand out compared to the light-colored snow ; 3) the bokeh is cleary separating the subject from the background ; 4) the foreground tree creates perfect leading lines that point directly at the center of the frame where the subject is placed ; 5) the snow horizon on the background on the left side creates another leading line to the center of the frame where the subject is placed ; 6) the snow on the middleground of the image that goes from the bottom right of the picture to the center also creates another leading line pointing to the subject ; 7) finally, even the background tree is pointing right at the subject. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 22:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Ivar (talk) 18:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --The Cosmonaut (talk) 02:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Llez (talk) 08:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 12:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Bad crop IMO, the photo is mainly just "background". —kallerna (talk) 07:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. The gallery "animals in their habitats" was especially created to feature pictures where a step back was taken and where a wider view is presented. Per creator of this gallery : "It is so great to see the animals as part of photos of their habitat. So please, when you super-record the critters, do also take a step back and compose a few great photos where we can see a bit more of the places where they live". This image is exactly that, it allows to have a wider view that changes from the usual "mugshots" that we often see on animals here. The wider view on this shot was intended for various reasons. It emphasizes the small size of the subject and the fact that it is still a small baby on a big snow covered environment with only a few trees. The wider look also allows to see two trees that are relevant to the environment of the chamois in winter because close to them there is less snow on the ground and the chamois can more easily dig the snow with their hooves to eat the grass. Finally the wider shots also allows to showcase the swiss alps in the background beautifully illuminated by sunset light to complete the scene. If the image would have been cropped/framed to only include the chamois, it would have in my opinion a lot less educational value because we would be missing all these interesting elements about it's habitat. Moreover the wider shots allows to showcase the beautiful sunset colors which is a rare thing to capture with wildlife photography. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 09:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If so, the habitat should not be OOF. —kallerna (talk) 13:25, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The chamois is still the main subject of the image so it's normal to have the focus on him. The bokeh is destined to bring the viewer's attention to the main subject while still allowing to have an idea of the surroundings, without needing to see them in details (or they would steal attention from the main subject). We have several FP on the gallery "Animals in their habitat" that also have bokeh background : 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. Moreover, except if background is extremely close to the subject (or if the subject is far away), you will always have bokeh at 600mm. The use of a 600mm zoom was intentional, as it creates a compression effect that allows the background elements to look closer than they really are. Here is an exemple with a photo (from the internet) of the Château de Chillon with a probably like 25-35mm lense. The red square illustrates where the Dents du Midi are. Here is now a photo of the Château de Chillon taken from more far away with a 155mm zoom in order to have the Dents du Midi mountain appearing in big behind the castle to make them look like they are closer than they really are. This same technique was used in this shot in order to have the Swiss Alps appearing in the background (else they would be extremely small in the background because they are 40-60km further away). -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This new gallery was not an improvement for several of us. See Strange disconnected extra gallery.
kallerna takes great photographs of animals in their environment, like File:Vicugna vicugna Salar de Chalviri.jpg and File:Faroese sheep Sumba 1.jpg (both FP) and I think that if you choose to include the background, then this visible context should be attractive / aesthetic in some way. Otherwise the animal is just too small -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are comparing a domestic animal like a sheep that can extremely easily be approached + an animal that can also easily be approached by humans (vicuna) to a chamois, a wild animal that can't be approached like that. Both pictures you linked were taken at 21mm and 48mm at a close distance (=no bokeh), which is usually not something that can be done with this animal where you have to use a telephoto lense like the 600mm that I used (=inevitable bokeh). To photograph the animal I had to crawl on the snow and hide my body behind a natural bump on the ground with only my head, camera and hands appearing to the chamois, in order to not disturb him and not feel threatening to him or he probably would have fled. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 10:37, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are a bunch of photos of Rupicapra rupicapra on Commons and Wikipedia. So it doesn't seem so difficult to approach them.
Backgrounds in focus don't necessary "steal attention from the main subject", at least not in the two examples shown above.
The problem with long focal lengths is they focus on small things. Everything around gets blurry. So the compromise "subject + around" is difficult. Since it quickly gives an insignifiant small subject lost in a big uninteresting space. I think that's what Kallerna says when writing the photo is mainly just "background". Regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you look the images from your link you will notice that they have been all taken from very far or with a telephoto lense, and/or went into a big crop, which proves my point that they are not as easily approachable as a domestic sheep or a vicuna. The group of chamois that I saw was a bit nervous and I have no doubt they would very likely have fled if I would be standing up and not lying on the ground with just my head visible. Moreover, for the sheep image you link I personally have my attention very much directed to the houses on the right because they are in clear focus and I personally don't like animal photography with human constructed elements but that's just my personal taste. Finally I don't think that the subject gets lost in a big uninteresting space for this photo because as said above it emphasizes the small size of the subject and the fact that it is still a small baby on a big snow covered environment with only a few trees. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 11:24, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Proportionally, it's a huge background with small animal. And the background itself is... white, with almost nothing apart from distracting blurry elements -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know it's more rare to see such composition on FPC because here people usually only do mugshots of wild animals but there still are other images in the same situation as linked above : 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. I personally think that this composition brings value to the image because it allows to have a view of the environment and also because it tells a story that a narrow croped/frame picture would not be able to tell. Also I personally think that the background would be distracting if it was in focus and that the bokeh beautifully separates the subject from the background while still beeing possible to understand the context. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 12:05, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Environment are greats when they fit. Have a quick glance at this picture. What do you see? Two dark forms. One is okay, and one is a strange bush, like saying "hello, I'm here but just a big unclear shape. Try to find something else in this large, large frame" -- Basile Morin (talk) 12:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only dark form I see is the chamois and I think the background tree brings welcoming nice warm colors to a mostly cold snow background giving a nice mix of warm and cold to the image. The background tree also echoes the foreground tree giving the viewer a sense of its shape. It also is relevant to the chamois environment because the herd went where the trees were for more easily accessible grass. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In theory perhaps, but not out of focus like that, so that when you zoom in, it's just blur in your face! :-) Basile Morin (talk) 13:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you see at unzoomed size that it's a tree I don't see why you would want to zoom at it to see if it's still a tree. Bokeh areas is not meant to be zoomed at since it's not the main subject. You will have the same result when zooming in bokeh areas of these pictures : 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 and it is a normal thing. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:53, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... Is it not the third time now these 5 links appear on this page? Lol :-) Honestly the big brown mass was not so obvious as a tree at first sight. You were there, but not the observers. Problem is that these elements you don't see the necessity to see in large size actually dominate -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I repost them for convenience to have clearer view of what is beeing refered to. But I agree that the discussion has become cyclical and that everything was already said (many times). I think it's still quite visible that it's a tree with all the branches and some of them with snow. Yes the domination is actually precisely the point of this composition: to have a small baby chamois depicted in a vast open environment with difficultly accessible grass as everything on the ground is deeply snow covered, except close to the trees. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:16, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Nice light but 1) the feet are hidden, 2) the big blurry brown mass is distracting, and 3) the snowy branch is out of focus. Cluttered composition in my view -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. I don't think the feet beeing hidden is a problem for ungulates and we have multiple FP in that situation (in addition to the image of the domesetic sheep you sent yourself above) : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, etc. Moreover, as explained above, to photograph the animal I had to crawl up a a natural bump in the snow to only have my head, hands and camera appearing to the animal so that it would not feel threatened by me. If I had stood up to have the chamois feet in the image, not only would the chamois have probably fled, but also the composition would have been extremely boring because you would not have the swiss alps in the background and just a boring high-angle shot with just ground visible in the background (click here for an illustration). As for the two trees you mention, they are relevant to the chamois environment. In my opinion the image would have been much more cluttered if they were in focus (which anyway can not be the case at 600mm) and they would also be very distracting in my opinion because they would steal the attention from the chamois. So I still think that having them blured not only creates a good classical foreground, midleground, background photography which gives a 3 dimensional sense to the image but also allow to keep the attention on the main subject. Also, as already said, the foreground tree creates a perfect leading line to the subject just as many others that are present in the image. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 11:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would, would, would... if, if, if :-) So to be short, it's sometimes just a question of luck. The environment here was not so cooperative in my personal opinion, but your subjective taste is of course totally acceptable -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing how the chamois were a bit nervous, I have almost no doubt they would have fled if I stood up (but we can never be 100% certain of course). Also, I have been a dozen times to this place and I have no doubt that I was extremely lucky to cumulate multiple favorable factors for this image : 1) there is only a few days/weeks every year that you can have snow there as it is not very high in altitude and also because winters are becoming warmer and warmer lately ; 2) chamois are not often seen there (most of the time it’s just ibexes that are seen) ; 3) the picture was taken with beautiful sunset colors which is rare and lucky for wildlife photography because usually the wild animals will not be placed in a good place or you will face challenging light conditions with for example contre-jour and for this shot I was lucky that the baby chamois was well placed to not have contre-jour, it was also lucky that the chamois was not in a shadow area that would not be benefiting from the sunset colors and it was also lucky that the chamois lifted its head in a way that it could be beautifully illuminated by the soft sunsets light ; 4) the combination of all of the previous elements is extremely lucky because it is way more likely to see the chamois without snow or with no beautiful sunset colors ; 5) it was very interesting to witness how the chamois adapted to this unusual situation for them (snow covering their food and having to go to places with less snow to dig to reach the grass) ; 6) having that small baby chamois far enough from the rest of the herd (especially form the mother) was extremely lucky and allowed to isolate the subject in this big snowy fairy tail environment ; 7) 98% of the time the chamois was just eating/digging the ground with head down and it was only during a very small few seconds that it had its head up like that to monitor me (even though I just had my head, hands and camera visible for him in order to not appear threatening)(but most of the time it was the rest of the herd that kept monitoring me) ; 8) most of the time with wildlife animal you are not able to place yourself to have the elements you want in the background. For this shot I was extremely lucky to be able to have the Swiss alps in the background. 9) the chamois was really perfectly placed with all these leading lines pointing to him, which is uncommon for wildlife photography. With all these elements I honestly personally think this image is of FP level. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 12:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You see some qualities but minimize the drawbacks :-) 1) animal partially hidden at the bottom (in addition to being small in the environment), 2) background totally unclear, out of focus (not recognizable mountains) 3) unaesthetic branch. Question of visual balance -- Basile Morin (talk) 12:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because I honestly personally don't think they are drawbacks (and even if they were, all of the qualities of the image would outweigh them in my opinion) : 1) I don't think having feet partially hidden is a problem for ungulates (see the 15 links above) and is actually even more normal when walking on snow ; 2) for me the background is clear : there's a vast environment with only a few trees and a mountain in the background. I don't think it needs to be in focus as it would steal attention from the subject (and as said above would not be possible anyway at 600mm). The background also tells a story and is relevant to the chamois environment ; 3) I personally think the foreground branch is very aesthetic because it is beautifully covered in snow with beautiful delicate sunset colors. I also like the way they create leading lines to the subject. I understand your opinion, even if I don't agree with it, and I think everything was said. Best regards and have a nice day, -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! I had a wonderful day :-)
It's very clear on the picture that the feet are hidden, not because deep in the snow but because the foreground is higher in level.
15 examples above (wow!) but all of them with animals at full size. Different from here, small mammal + partially hidden -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to hear you had a wonderful day. I understand your view about partially hidden feet and proportion. What I am saying is that not only it's not disturbing for ungulates having feet not visible but that also it is also unavoidable to have that in snow anyway, even if a few inches would have been gained by standing up (at the cost of having the animal flee away and having a way less interesting background). On some of the 15 links mentioned you will even have much greater portion not visible. I personally prefer this picture than these two FP chamois pictures I made : image n°1 and image n°2 because on these two links it's just a chamois "mugshot" and there's not much context to it. This actual image is way more special in my opinion because of the fact that it was shot in a snow environment, moreover with beautiful sunset lights, and that this picture is even is able to give a context of the chamois' environment and behavior in winter in that place. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:06, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Unavoidable"? Type "chamois in snow" on Google and you'll see almost all the pictures display the feet (example).
The number of extraordinary buildings that failed at FPC because something distracting was ruining the composition... Same case here in my view. On the surface, the animal represents maybe 3 or 4 %. The rest is like empty on a "symbolic" level. Content matters -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:22, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unavoidable on deep snow, not on undeep snow that was already flatened by walking on it. I personaly don't think the trees are distracting and that on the opposite they bring value to the composition has it's part of it's environment and explains why the chamois would prefer to be close to it. This picture has just as much "animal surface" than these ones for example : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and it is a perfectly normal thing for depicting animals in their environment. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@El Golli Mohamed with your comment saying "it's really easy for those who have never practiced wildlife photography to criticize", you certainly ignore that the best art critics in this world aren't artists themselves. They just know what they're talking about, with enough background and knowledge. Moreover, this platform is open to everyone. No diploma requested to participate. That's also valid for all the voters who support birds or very cute cats. Similarly you can also meet people having strong convictions on architecture photography without knowing anything about the subject nor the difficulty. Please stay focus on the topic, if you have something interesting to share about the content, just let us know -- Basile Morin (talk) 00:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What you say is not contradictory to what I said. I didn't say that it was forbidden to criticize a style of photography that you have never practiced, but that it was too easy to do so. After that, saying that you know a subject very well without ever having practiced it doesn't really convince me. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 07:34, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You may be upset or frustrated because I opposed a picture of your birds and my vote suddenly put an end to the enthusiastic series of supports. Hopefully because something true was said.
What I'm explaining concerning reviews: First, great art critics are usually not artists. Which means they don't practice at all. No painting in their hands. Only knowledge, feelings, sensibility. And they usually know what they're talking about. Same happens when you enjoy a music or a movie, you don't need to be musician nor director or comedian, you just need to master a field that is about giving fair appreciations. And criticizing an art work is never "too easy" for these professionals. Secondly, it's far more easy to cast an empty vote with nothing written, or with nothing constructive, than expressing a subjective opinion, finding the words, detailing a reasoning, and if necessary courageously going against the consensus. I appreciate Giles's works in general, but I'm sorry not all the FPCs are always promoted. And I think all the authors (myself included) often lack objectivity. That's why various points of view are necessary -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:51, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm casting empty votes like you said parceque je n'aime pas trop "étaler ma science" par ici. Je crois que je vais clore ce débat inutile. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 07:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's your way of participating. But read also the guidelines. COM:FPC "A well-written review helps participants (photographers, nominators and reviewers) improve their skills by providing insight into the strengths and weaknesses of a picture. Explain your reasoning, especially when opposing a candidate". Greetings -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support As a wildlife photographer, I understand the challenges that often arise when capturing images in cold climates and at high altitudes. I have gone out to photograph in temperatures of -20°C to -30°C, which is common in this region of Quebec. I have also been at 5,000 meters above sea level in the Andes (reaching there on foot without a cable car). In such conditions, it's not just tough on the stomach; I remember that taking three steps felt like running an entire stadium, the heart beats very fast, the hands feel like they are burning despite special gloves, and the stomach feels like you have diarrhea all the time. I agree that an image should speak for itself, but we must consider the circumstances: a cold and high place is very different from a photo of farm animals. I respect others' opinions, but I want to support this photo for its merit and difficulty. --Wilfredor (talk) 22:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Excellent shot. I would have cropped it a bit on the left, given that there's a lot of weight on the right. That being said, I particularly like that the image shows the habitat. The bokeh of the lens is nice and in general there's nothing wrong with out-of-focus elements in an image. Thanks for uploading so many top-notch photos here, Giles! --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 01:48, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Guermassa, vue sur le village.jpg[edit]

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File:Grèbe huppé Thyna008.jpg[edit]

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Great crested grebe (Podiceps cristatus) at Thyna (Ramsar site)
The beak is just about okay, but not the crest above, nor the eyes, nor even the crest around the neck. The focus is really further away, probably because the bird was moving forward. Or because the focus point was not adequately targeted -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment A striking snapshot, but unfortunately the technical quality is inadequate. I wonder why the image received QI status when head and eyes are not in focus. -- Radomianin (talk) 09:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for asking, Charles. As for dissenting votes, I prefer to use them very thoughtfully. If possible, I try to convey my opinion with a comment or, if in doubt, a neutral vote. However, if it's necessary to prevent a promotion in the interest of common consensus, I do so - as in this example. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 21:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I understand. But your policy, whilst it avoids creating enemies, skews nominations in favour of promotion. I have had to give up opposing nominations except in exceptional circumstances (e.g. ethics), so I have also stopped supporting excellent nominations which is a shame. The general enmity and frequent hostility from other users made my life too stressful, so I can see where you are coming from. Unfortunately, it is not possible to hide the identity of voters. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many thanks for your thoughts, Charles. I think a detailed, reasoned dissenting vote is very valuable to be constructive for the image and the photographer. However, a constructive comment can be equally helpful in not scaring off new talent. An offer of help can also rescue a nomination. Because FPC thrives on diversity, which is not always the case. I have also learned a lot on this forum over the years, and yet I can't get enough of participating regularly and enjoying the contributions of fellow users. Speaking only for myself, it may not always be easy, but as in real life, learning from mistakes strengthens your skills and ultimately your level of confidence. Best, -- Radomianin (talk) 10:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many thanks for your comment, El Golli Mohamed. I didn't know about that, and I'm sorry that there were differences. If I may express my humble opinion in general, perhaps past misunderstandings should be settled in respectful agreement in order to look forward to the future unencumbered. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 11:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Charlesjsharp and El Golli Mohamed: Thank you for letting me know, Charles. I was not aware of the incident, but I found the relevant entry. Please allow me to share my opinion as an outsider: It is not okay to insult, El Golli Mohamed. It is also not okay to feel provoked or to provoke. We should always remember the principle of assuming good intentions. If someone feels provoked, it might be a good idea to wait a bit before responding calmly. I think it would be appropriate for you to settle your differences, perhaps with an apology. What is the point of remembering past incidents? I'm sure you're both friendly and outgoing people in real life, so you should look to the future and not lose focus on the main goal of our presence here: Working together to build a valuable media library for reusers. Best, -- Radomianin (talk) 18:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You can take a look at my Cream-coloured Courser's nomination. You will understand. A kind of unbearable repetitive sticks in the wheels. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 20:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I assume it's about this nomination. You withdrew the nomination two days after it was created. I think this was a bit hasty. Please don't be discouraged by comments and be patient. With some nominations, reviewers are undecided at first and decide to review the image later. Your assumption, mentioned on the nomination page, that there is a lobby that does not want to judge the photo is not correct, in my opinion. You may want to consider reversing your withdrawal to allow the nomination to run its course. -- Radomianin (talk) 21:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's okay, I already nominated another photo. I didn't say I was surrounded by a lobby, I said there was a lobby (so a minority, two or three) that discourages most of the participants here. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 21:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The ferruginous crest of the grebe is the most interesting part of the bird and it is in focus. You can't shoot at F11 in wildlife photography to have all the depth of field from the tip of the beak till the crest in focus for such a situation. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 21:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I understand that it is very challenging to create such ambitious images. However, as I see it, the focus in your photo is mainly on the flight feathers, as even the impressive crest is not completely in focus. I suspect that the bird's movement towards you was faster than the autofocus. I think if the crest had been sharper, the eyes and head would also have been more in focus than they are now. -- Radomianin (talk) 21:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Of course it's not easy to camouflage yourself and wait for the bird to come towards you with this raised crest look without it seeing you. Afterwards you have to react quickly and the autofocus in this low light does not allow you to point the eye quickly enough. Either you wait for the autofocus to catch the eye and you can miss a very nice shot or you give priority to the trigger even if it does not catch the eye perfectly. I have many classic photos of Great Crested Grebe with a clear eye but with this atmosphere this is the only photo. Anyone who has ever practice wildlife photography knows what I'm talking about. An art critic will focus on the sharp eye. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 22:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:2014-Cambodge Angkor Wat (21).jpg[edit]

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Statue of reclining Buddha in the central Prasat.- Angkor Wat
Thank you for your advice, the shooting conditions were particularly difficult, this statue of sleeping Buddha is located on the uppermost terrace. I couldn't figure out how to fix this problem. If the image is not OK for FP, I will quickly remove it from the proposals made Best regards. --Pierre André (talk) 15:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Tapsi Miniature Poodle Galloping Contraction Extension Harangi Apr24 A7C 10646-7 Pano.jpg[edit]

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Composite image of miniature poodle galloping

File:2024 Solar Eclipse over Cleveland Terminal Tower - 53650722351.jpg[edit]

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The solar eclipse of 8 April 2024 over the Terminal Tower, Cleveland


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File:William Shakespeare by John Taylor, edited.jpg[edit]

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William Shakespeare by John Taylor

File:Rainbow (17659375763).jpg[edit]

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Artsy portrait. Ruben Andon: Make up, Body art & hair: Barbara Rizzuti

File:Escalators at the train station in Helsinki airport.jpg[edit]

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Escalators at Helsinki airport train station

File:Sandnes City Map.png[edit]

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Sandnes City Map
Just a note from a Scandi. These days the languages (Norwegian/Swedish/Danish) spoken and written by Scandinavians contain a lot of English words and expressions, and most of us don't know the difference between pure American and British English. We learn and use a hodgepodge from what we pick up in media, films and tv shows, and try to adapt what we say so that people will understand the meaning rather than true translations. It's sort of the Scandi version of Pidgin English. Hence we use the real names of companies like 'Vinmonopolet' (in Sweden, Systembolaget has the same function) when speaking among foreign friends, but terms like 'Liquor Store' when describing it to the public in general. --Cart (talk) 11:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever it should be called, the Vinmonopolet is nowhere near the shown location from 2022, so you'd never find it using this map. Charlesjsharp (talk) 14:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most maps of larger areas are outdated as soon as they are published. --Cart (talk) 14:25, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Raden Saleh - Diponegoro arrest.jpg[edit]

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SHORT DESCRIPTION
 Nomination denied. Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines because only two active nominations per user are allowed. --Basile Morin (talk) 07:43, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Jajan Pasar in Jakarta edit.JPG[edit]

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Jajan pasar
 Nomination denied. Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines because only two active nominations per user are allowed. --Basile Morin (talk) 07:43, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Kue Lapis.jpg[edit]

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Hai

File:Kue Lumpur Pandan Jajanan Pasar Tradisional (crop).jpg[edit]

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File:MiG-29 38.JPG (delist)[edit]

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File:Tour Magdala in Rennes-le-Chateau (9).jpg[edit]

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Tour Magdala in Rennes-le-Château, Aude, France

File:Remote view of Jintai Temple dllu.jpg[edit]

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Jintai Temple in Zhuhai, built in 1992.
Maybe – I'll wait and see what others have to say. --SHB2000 (talk) 09:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those mini-ripples on the water look fine to me. It's what you get when you have a breeze blowing on a lake with no rolling waves. --Cart (talk) 13:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but per the header, only "[e]ditors whose accounts have at least 10 days and 50 edits can vote." Your account only has 24 edits as of 09:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC). --SHB2000 (talk) 09:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Grèbe castagneux Lac de Tunis.jpg[edit]

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Little grebe (Tachybaptus ruficollis) at Tunis Lake

File:Weg auf der Ostseite des Galgenfeldsees bei Haßfurt.jpg[edit]

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Path east of Galgenfeldsee

File:Kriegergedenkplatte an der Aussegnungshalle auf dem Friedhof Siegendorf (Oberschwarzach).jpg[edit]

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War memorial plate in Siegendorf

File:Cuernos del Paine in Torres del Paine National Park.jpg[edit]

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View of the Cuernos del Paine peaks in the beautiful Torres del Paine national park

File:Zrinski Castle in Cakovec (13).jpg[edit]

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Zrinski Castle in Čakovec, Međimurje County, Croatia

File:4 Bic Cristal pens and caps.jpg[edit]

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File:Helix aspersa hanging on a leaf.jpg[edit]

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Snail on leaf

File:Deelerwoud, 09-05-2024 (d.j.b.) 02.jpg[edit]

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File:La Défense, Paris April 2012.jpg (delist)[edit]

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File:Un groupe de flamants roses à Guellala - Djerba.jpg[edit]

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File:Wildlife Photographer Giles Laurent in a ghillie suit.jpg[edit]

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Only silhouettes and bits of skins :-) -- Basile Morin (talk) 10:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Oxelaëre.- Porche de l église Saint-Martin, relief de Ste Cécile.jpg[edit]

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Relief, carved with the effigy of Ste Cécile represented with her zither, to the right of the portal of the Saint-Martin church. Oxelaëre (Nord, Fr)

File:Chlebowski-Bajazyt w niewoli.jpg[edit]

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 Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: Unfortunately, at 1.6 megapixels, this image is below the required minimum resolution of 2 megapixels. Perhaps you can find a higher resolution with a freely available license, in which case we would appreciate a renewed nomination. Sorry for that. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 12:04, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply] Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.

File:Spectacled weaver (Ploceus ocularis ocularis) male feeding Mbombela.jpg[edit]

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"Unity of humanitarian and technical sciences" constructivist relief at 46, Chkalovsky avenue. Petrogradsky District, Saint Petersburg, Russia.

File:Facóquero común (Phacochoerus africanus), parque nacional del Lago Mburo, Uganda, 2024-02-01, DD 66.jpg[edit]

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Common warthog (Phacochoerus africanus), Lake Mburo National Park, Uganda.

File:Gorila de montaña (Gorilla beringei beringei), parque nacional de la Selva Impenetrable de Bwindi, Uganda, 2024-02-02, DD 80.jpg[edit]

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Female mountain gorilla (Gorilla beringei beringei), Bwindi Impenetrable National Park, Uganda

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Cream-colored courser (Cursorius cursor) in Jbil National Park

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Aerial image of Finsteraarhorn (view from the south)

File:Вид Нижний Урунгач.jpg[edit]

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Lower Urungach lake. Tashkent Region, Uzbekistan.

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Black-headed heron close-up in the Tarangire National Park

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Dunnock on a log

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Falesia Nome e Cognome

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Chiesa di San Michele

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Razor clamshell dress by Alexander McQueen

File:Romanesco broccoli texture.jpg, featured[edit]

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Romanesco broccoli
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Result: 21 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /-- Radomianin (talk) 21:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Food and drink#Vegetables (raw)

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Leopard (Panthera pardus pardus) young female Kruger National Park

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JR East 701 series N12 train between Nadushiko and Kawabe on the Ōu Main Line, Japan

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Kobbet lahwé à la Marsa built inside the sea

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A wharf in Lake Prespa near the village of Oteševo

File:006 Wild Baby Alpine Chamois Creux du Van and Swiss Alps Sunset colors Photo by Giles Laurent.jpg[edit]

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Wild baby alpine chamois and Swiss alps at Creux du van with sunset colors and snow
  • Gallery: Commons:Featured_pictures/Animals/In_their_habitats#Artiodactyla (Even-toed Ungulates)
  •  Info created by Giles Laurent - uploaded by Giles Laurent - nominated by Giles Laurent -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:18, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:18, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support ★ 14:11, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support nice.--Famberhorst (talk) 16:07, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak oppose That dark blurred area on the right spoils the composition IMHO Poco a poco (talk) 17:16, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. I guess you are talking of one of the two trees? They are the reason the chamois were there: close to them the snow is less deep and they can dig the snow with their hooves to eat the grass. The trees are thus part of the habitats of these chamois, which is one of the reasons why the gallery Animals in their habitat was chosen for this picture. Also, I actually personally think that they give a nice touch to the image with their soft colors illuminated by the sunset. Also both trees point to the subject and the chamois clearly stands out with its dark color in this snowy background with soft sunset illuminated colors. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 17:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support From the point of view of the chosen gallery, I think the composition is appropriate. In my opinion, the blurred elements in the foreground and background can be considered a compositional style. -- Radomianin (talk) 19:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support per Radomianin --Terragio67 (talk) 03:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose (regretfully). I have to agree with Poco2 that the blurred area on the right ruins it. --SHB2000 (talk) 10:35, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. I still personally think that the background tree is a nice echo of the foreground tree, giving the viewer a sense of what the foreground tree actually looks like while also beeing relevant to the chamois' environment. Giles Laurent (talk) 13:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's a fair point, but the tree takes the salience. SHB2000 (talk) 22:09, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I still think that the chamois stands out way more than the background tree for multiple reasons : 1) the chamois is the clear subject in the middle of the frame ; 2) the chamois is wearing it's black winter coat which makes it stand out compared to the light-colored snow ; 3) the bokeh is cleary separating the subject from the background ; 4) the foreground tree creates perfect leading lines that point directly at the center of the frame where the subject is placed ; 5) the snow horizon on the background on the left side creates another leading line to the center of the frame where the subject is placed ; 6) the snow on the middleground of the image that goes from the bottom right of the picture to the center also creates another leading line pointing to the subject ; 7) finally, even the background tree is pointing right at the subject. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 22:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Ivar (talk) 18:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --The Cosmonaut (talk) 02:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Llez (talk) 08:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 12:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Bad crop IMO, the photo is mainly just "background". —kallerna (talk) 07:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. The gallery "animals in their habitats" was especially created to feature pictures where a step back was taken and where a wider view is presented. Per creator of this gallery : "It is so great to see the animals as part of photos of their habitat. So please, when you super-record the critters, do also take a step back and compose a few great photos where we can see a bit more of the places where they live". This image is exactly that, it allows to have a wider view that changes from the usual "mugshots" that we often see on animals here. The wider view on this shot was intended for various reasons. It emphasizes the small size of the subject and the fact that it is still a small baby on a big snow covered environment with only a few trees. The wider look also allows to see two trees that are relevant to the environment of the chamois in winter because close to them there is less snow on the ground and the chamois can more easily dig the snow with their hooves to eat the grass. Finally the wider shots also allows to showcase the swiss alps in the background beautifully illuminated by sunset light to complete the scene. If the image would have been cropped/framed to only include the chamois, it would have in my opinion a lot less educational value because we would be missing all these interesting elements about it's habitat. Moreover the wider shots allows to showcase the beautiful sunset colors which is a rare thing to capture with wildlife photography. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 09:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If so, the habitat should not be OOF. —kallerna (talk) 13:25, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The chamois is still the main subject of the image so it's normal to have the focus on him. The bokeh is destined to bring the viewer's attention to the main subject while still allowing to have an idea of the surroundings, without needing to see them in details (or they would steal attention from the main subject). We have several FP on the gallery "Animals in their habitat" that also have bokeh background : 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. Moreover, except if background is extremely close to the subject (or if the subject is far away), you will always have bokeh at 600mm. The use of a 600mm zoom was intentional, as it creates a compression effect that allows the background elements to look closer than they really are. Here is an exemple with a photo (from the internet) of the Château de Chillon with a probably like 25-35mm lense. The red square illustrates where the Dents du Midi are. Here is now a photo of the Château de Chillon taken from more far away with a 155mm zoom in order to have the Dents du Midi mountain appearing in big behind the castle to make them look like they are closer than they really are. This same technique was used in this shot in order to have the Swiss Alps appearing in the background (else they would be extremely small in the background because they are 40-60km further away). -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This new gallery was not an improvement for several of us. See Strange disconnected extra gallery.
kallerna takes great photographs of animals in their environment, like File:Vicugna vicugna Salar de Chalviri.jpg and File:Faroese sheep Sumba 1.jpg (both FP) and I think that if you choose to include the background, then this visible context should be attractive / aesthetic in some way. Otherwise the animal is just too small -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are comparing a domestic animal like a sheep that can extremely easily be approached + an animal that can also easily be approached by humans (vicuna) to a chamois, a wild animal that can't be approached like that. Both pictures you linked were taken at 21mm and 48mm at a close distance (=no bokeh), which is usually not something that can be done with this animal where you have to use a telephoto lense like the 600mm that I used (=inevitable bokeh). To photograph the animal I had to crawl on the snow and hide my body behind a natural bump on the ground with only my head, camera and hands appearing to the chamois, in order to not disturb him and not feel threatening to him or he probably would have fled. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 10:37, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are a bunch of photos of Rupicapra rupicapra on Commons and Wikipedia. So it doesn't seem so difficult to approach them.
Backgrounds in focus don't necessary "steal attention from the main subject", at least not in the two examples shown above.
The problem with long focal lengths is they focus on small things. Everything around gets blurry. So the compromise "subject + around" is difficult. Since it quickly gives an insignifiant small subject lost in a big uninteresting space. I think that's what Kallerna says when writing the photo is mainly just "background". Regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you look the images from your link you will notice that they have been all taken from very far or with a telephoto lense, and/or went into a big crop, which proves my point that they are not as easily approachable as a domestic sheep or a vicuna. The group of chamois that I saw was a bit nervous and I have no doubt they would very likely have fled if I would be standing up and not lying on the ground with just my head visible. Moreover, for the sheep image you link I personally have my attention very much directed to the houses on the right because they are in clear focus and I personally don't like animal photography with human constructed elements but that's just my personal taste. Finally I don't think that the subject gets lost in a big uninteresting space for this photo because as said above it emphasizes the small size of the subject and the fact that it is still a small baby on a big snow covered environment with only a few trees. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 11:24, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Proportionally, it's a huge background with small animal. And the background itself is... white, with almost nothing apart from distracting blurry elements -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know it's more rare to see such composition on FPC because here people usually only do mugshots of wild animals but there still are other images in the same situation as linked above : 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. I personally think that this composition brings value to the image because it allows to have a view of the environment and also because it tells a story that a narrow croped/frame picture would not be able to tell. Also I personally think that the background would be distracting if it was in focus and that the bokeh beautifully separates the subject from the background while still beeing possible to understand the context. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 12:05, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Environment are greats when they fit. Have a quick glance at this picture. What do you see? Two dark forms. One is okay, and one is a strange bush, like saying "hello, I'm here but just a big unclear shape. Try to find something else in this large, large frame" -- Basile Morin (talk) 12:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only dark form I see is the chamois and I think the background tree brings welcoming nice warm colors to a mostly cold snow background giving a nice mix of warm and cold to the image. The background tree also echoes the foreground tree giving the viewer a sense of its shape. It also is relevant to the chamois environment because the herd went where the trees were for more easily accessible grass. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In theory perhaps, but not out of focus like that, so that when you zoom in, it's just blur in your face! :-) Basile Morin (talk) 13:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you see at unzoomed size that it's a tree I don't see why you would want to zoom at it to see if it's still a tree. Bokeh areas is not meant to be zoomed at since it's not the main subject. You will have the same result when zooming in bokeh areas of these pictures : 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 and it is a normal thing. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:53, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... Is it not the third time now these 5 links appear on this page? Lol :-) Honestly the big brown mass was not so obvious as a tree at first sight. You were there, but not the observers. Problem is that these elements you don't see the necessity to see in large size actually dominate -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I repost them for convenience to have clearer view of what is beeing refered to. But I agree that the discussion has become cyclical and that everything was already said (many times). I think it's still quite visible that it's a tree with all the branches and some of them with snow. Yes the domination is actually precisely the point of this composition: to have a small baby chamois depicted in a vast open environment with difficultly accessible grass as everything on the ground is deeply snow covered, except close to the trees. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:16, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Nice light but 1) the feet are hidden, 2) the big blurry brown mass is distracting, and 3) the snowy branch is out of focus. Cluttered composition in my view -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. I don't think the feet beeing hidden is a problem for ungulates and we have multiple FP in that situation (in addition to the image of the domesetic sheep you sent yourself above) : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, etc. Moreover, as explained above, to photograph the animal I had to crawl up a a natural bump in the snow to only have my head, hands and camera appearing to the animal so that it would not feel threatened by me. If I had stood up to have the chamois feet in the image, not only would the chamois have probably fled, but also the composition would have been extremely boring because you would not have the swiss alps in the background and just a boring high-angle shot with just ground visible in the background (click here for an illustration). As for the two trees you mention, they are relevant to the chamois environment. In my opinion the image would have been much more cluttered if they were in focus (which anyway can not be the case at 600mm) and they would also be very distracting in my opinion because they would steal the attention from the chamois. So I still think that having them blured not only creates a good classical foreground, midleground, background photography which gives a 3 dimensional sense to the image but also allow to keep the attention on the main subject. Also, as already said, the foreground tree creates a perfect leading line to the subject just as many others that are present in the image. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 11:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would, would, would... if, if, if :-) So to be short, it's sometimes just a question of luck. The environment here was not so cooperative in my personal opinion, but your subjective taste is of course totally acceptable -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing how the chamois were a bit nervous, I have almost no doubt they would have fled if I stood up (but we can never be 100% certain of course). Also, I have been a dozen times to this place and I have no doubt that I was extremely lucky to cumulate multiple favorable factors for this image : 1) there is only a few days/weeks every year that you can have snow there as it is not very high in altitude and also because winters are becoming warmer and warmer lately ; 2) chamois are not often seen there (most of the time it’s just ibexes that are seen) ; 3) the picture was taken with beautiful sunset colors which is rare and lucky for wildlife photography because usually the wild animals will not be placed in a good place or you will face challenging light conditions with for example contre-jour and for this shot I was lucky that the baby chamois was well placed to not have contre-jour, it was also lucky that the chamois was not in a shadow area that would not be benefiting from the sunset colors and it was also lucky that the chamois lifted its head in a way that it could be beautifully illuminated by the soft sunsets light ; 4) the combination of all of the previous elements is extremely lucky because it is way more likely to see the chamois without snow or with no beautiful sunset colors ; 5) it was very interesting to witness how the chamois adapted to this unusual situation for them (snow covering their food and having to go to places with less snow to dig to reach the grass) ; 6) having that small baby chamois far enough from the rest of the herd (especially form the mother) was extremely lucky and allowed to isolate the subject in this big snowy fairy tail environment ; 7) 98% of the time the chamois was just eating/digging the ground with head down and it was only during a very small few seconds that it had its head up like that to monitor me (even though I just had my head, hands and camera visible for him in order to not appear threatening)(but most of the time it was the rest of the herd that kept monitoring me) ; 8) most of the time with wildlife animal you are not able to place yourself to have the elements you want in the background. For this shot I was extremely lucky to be able to have the Swiss alps in the background. 9) the chamois was really perfectly placed with all these leading lines pointing to him, which is uncommon for wildlife photography. With all these elements I honestly personally think this image is of FP level. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 12:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You see some qualities but minimize the drawbacks :-) 1) animal partially hidden at the bottom (in addition to being small in the environment), 2) background totally unclear, out of focus (not recognizable mountains) 3) unaesthetic branch. Question of visual balance -- Basile Morin (talk) 12:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because I honestly personally don't think they are drawbacks (and even if they were, all of the qualities of the image would outweigh them in my opinion) : 1) I don't think having feet partially hidden is a problem for ungulates (see the 15 links above) and is actually even more normal when walking on snow ; 2) for me the background is clear : there's a vast environment with only a few trees and a mountain in the background. I don't think it needs to be in focus as it would steal attention from the subject (and as said above would not be possible anyway at 600mm). The background also tells a story and is relevant to the chamois environment ; 3) I personally think the foreground branch is very aesthetic because it is beautifully covered in snow with beautiful delicate sunset colors. I also like the way they create leading lines to the subject. I understand your opinion, even if I don't agree with it, and I think everything was said. Best regards and have a nice day, -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! I had a wonderful day :-)
It's very clear on the picture that the feet are hidden, not because deep in the snow but because the foreground is higher in level.
15 examples above (wow!) but all of them with animals at full size. Different from here, small mammal + partially hidden -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to hear you had a wonderful day. I understand your view about partially hidden feet and proportion. What I am saying is that not only it's not disturbing for ungulates having feet not visible but that also it is also unavoidable to have that in snow anyway, even if a few inches would have been gained by standing up (at the cost of having the animal flee away and having a way less interesting background). On some of the 15 links mentioned you will even have much greater portion not visible. I personally prefer this picture than these two FP chamois pictures I made : image n°1 and image n°2 because on these two links it's just a chamois "mugshot" and there's not much context to it. This actual image is way more special in my opinion because of the fact that it was shot in a snow environment, moreover with beautiful sunset lights, and that this picture is even is able to give a context of the chamois' environment and behavior in winter in that place. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:06, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Unavoidable"? Type "chamois in snow" on Google and you'll see almost all the pictures display the feet (example).
The number of extraordinary buildings that failed at FPC because something distracting was ruining the composition... Same case here in my view. On the surface, the animal represents maybe 3 or 4 %. The rest is like empty on a "symbolic" level. Content matters -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:22, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unavoidable on deep snow, not on undeep snow that was already flatened by walking on it. I personaly don't think the trees are distracting and that on the opposite they bring value to the composition has it's part of it's environment and explains why the chamois would prefer to be close to it. This picture has just as much "animal surface" than these ones for example : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and it is a perfectly normal thing for depicting animals in their environment. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@El Golli Mohamed with your comment saying "it's really easy for those who have never practiced wildlife photography to criticize", you certainly ignore that the best art critics in this world aren't artists themselves. They just know what they're talking about, with enough background and knowledge. Moreover, this platform is open to everyone. No diploma requested to participate. That's also valid for all the voters who support birds or very cute cats. Similarly you can also meet people having strong convictions on architecture photography without knowing anything about the subject nor the difficulty. Please stay focus on the topic, if you have something interesting to share about the content, just let us know -- Basile Morin (talk) 00:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What you say is not contradictory to what I said. I didn't say that it was forbidden to criticize a style of photography that you have never practiced, but that it was too easy to do so. After that, saying that you know a subject very well without ever having practiced it doesn't really convince me. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 07:34, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You may be upset or frustrated because I opposed a picture of your birds and my vote suddenly put an end to the enthusiastic series of supports. Hopefully because something true was said.
What I'm explaining concerning reviews: First, great art critics are usually not artists. Which means they don't practice at all. No painting in their hands. Only knowledge, feelings, sensibility. And they usually know what they're talking about. Same happens when you enjoy a music or a movie, you don't need to be musician nor director or comedian, you just need to master a field that is about giving fair appreciations. And criticizing an art work is never "too easy" for these professionals. Secondly, it's far more easy to cast an empty vote with nothing written, or with nothing constructive, than expressing a subjective opinion, finding the words, detailing a reasoning, and if necessary courageously going against the consensus. I appreciate Giles's works in general, but I'm sorry not all the FPCs are always promoted. And I think all the authors (myself included) often lack objectivity. That's why various points of view are necessary -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:51, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm casting empty votes like you said parceque je n'aime pas trop "étaler ma science" par ici. Je crois que je vais clore ce débat inutile. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 07:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's your way of participating. But read also the guidelines. COM:FPC "A well-written review helps participants (photographers, nominators and reviewers) improve their skills by providing insight into the strengths and weaknesses of a picture. Explain your reasoning, especially when opposing a candidate". Greetings -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support As a wildlife photographer, I understand the challenges that often arise when capturing images in cold climates and at high altitudes. I have gone out to photograph in temperatures of -20°C to -30°C, which is common in this region of Quebec. I have also been at 5,000 meters above sea level in the Andes (reaching there on foot without a cable car). In such conditions, it's not just tough on the stomach; I remember that taking three steps felt like running an entire stadium, the heart beats very fast, the hands feel like they are burning despite special gloves, and the stomach feels like you have diarrhea all the time. I agree that an image should speak for itself, but we must consider the circumstances: a cold and high place is very different from a photo of farm animals. I respect others' opinions, but I want to support this photo for its merit and difficulty. --Wilfredor (talk) 22:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Excellent shot. I would have cropped it a bit on the left, given that there's a lot of weight on the right. That being said, I particularly like that the image shows the habitat. The bokeh of the lens is nice and in general there's nothing wrong with out-of-focus elements in an image. Thanks for uploading so many top-notch photos here, Giles! --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 01:48, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Great crested grebe (Podiceps cristatus) at Thyna (Ramsar site)
The beak is just about okay, but not the crest above, nor the eyes, nor even the crest around the neck. The focus is really further away, probably because the bird was moving forward. Or because the focus point was not adequately targeted -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment A striking snapshot, but unfortunately the technical quality is inadequate. I wonder why the image received QI status when head and eyes are not in focus. -- Radomianin (talk) 09:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for asking, Charles. As for dissenting votes, I prefer to use them very thoughtfully. If possible, I try to convey my opinion with a comment or, if in doubt, a neutral vote. However, if it's necessary to prevent a promotion in the interest of common consensus, I do so - as in this example. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 21:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I understand. But your policy, whilst it avoids creating enemies, skews nominations in favour of promotion. I have had to give up opposing nominations except in exceptional circumstances (e.g. ethics), so I have also stopped supporting excellent nominations which is a shame. The general enmity and frequent hostility from other users made my life too stressful, so I can see where you are coming from. Unfortunately, it is not possible to hide the identity of voters. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many thanks for your thoughts, Charles. I think a detailed, reasoned dissenting vote is very valuable to be constructive for the image and the photographer. However, a constructive comment can be equally helpful in not scaring off new talent. An offer of help can also rescue a nomination. Because FPC thrives on diversity, which is not always the case. I have also learned a lot on this forum over the years, and yet I can't get enough of participating regularly and enjoying the contributions of fellow users. Speaking only for myself, it may not always be easy, but as in real life, learning from mistakes strengthens your skills and ultimately your level of confidence. Best, -- Radomianin (talk) 10:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many thanks for your comment, El Golli Mohamed. I didn't know about that, and I'm sorry that there were differences. If I may express my humble opinion in general, perhaps past misunderstandings should be settled in respectful agreement in order to look forward to the future unencumbered. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 11:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Charlesjsharp and El Golli Mohamed: Thank you for letting me know, Charles. I was not aware of the incident, but I found the relevant entry. Please allow me to share my opinion as an outsider: It is not okay to insult, El Golli Mohamed. It is also not okay to feel provoked or to provoke. We should always remember the principle of assuming good intentions. If someone feels provoked, it might be a good idea to wait a bit before responding calmly. I think it would be appropriate for you to settle your differences, perhaps with an apology. What is the point of remembering past incidents? I'm sure you're both friendly and outgoing people in real life, so you should look to the future and not lose focus on the main goal of our presence here: Working together to build a valuable media library for reusers. Best, -- Radomianin (talk) 18:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You can take a look at my Cream-coloured Courser's nomination. You will understand. A kind of unbearable repetitive sticks in the wheels. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 20:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I assume it's about this nomination. You withdrew the nomination two days after it was created. I think this was a bit hasty. Please don't be discouraged by comments and be patient. With some nominations, reviewers are undecided at first and decide to review the image later. Your assumption, mentioned on the nomination page, that there is a lobby that does not want to judge the photo is not correct, in my opinion. You may want to consider reversing your withdrawal to allow the nomination to run its course. -- Radomianin (talk) 21:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's okay, I already nominated another photo. I didn't say I was surrounded by a lobby, I said there was a lobby (so a minority, two or three) that discourages most of the participants here. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 21:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The ferruginous crest of the grebe is the most interesting part of the bird and it is in focus. You can't shoot at F11 in wildlife photography to have all the depth of field from the tip of the beak till the crest in focus for such a situation. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 21:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I understand that it is very challenging to create such ambitious images. However, as I see it, the focus in your photo is mainly on the flight feathers, as even the impressive crest is not completely in focus. I suspect that the bird's movement towards you was faster than the autofocus. I think if the crest had been sharper, the eyes and head would also have been more in focus than they are now. -- Radomianin (talk) 21:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Of course it's not easy to camouflage yourself and wait for the bird to come towards you with this raised crest look without it seeing you. Afterwards you have to react quickly and the autofocus in this low light does not allow you to point the eye quickly enough. Either you wait for the autofocus to catch the eye and you can miss a very nice shot or you give priority to the trigger even if it does not catch the eye perfectly. I have many classic photos of Great Crested Grebe with a clear eye but with this atmosphere this is the only photo. Anyone who has ever practice wildlife photography knows what I'm talking about. An art critic will focus on the sharp eye. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 22:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Statue of reclining Buddha in the central Prasat.- Angkor Wat
Thank you for your advice, the shooting conditions were particularly difficult, this statue of sleeping Buddha is located on the uppermost terrace. I couldn't figure out how to fix this problem. If the image is not OK for FP, I will quickly remove it from the proposals made Best regards. --Pierre André (talk) 15:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The solar eclipse of 8 April 2024 over the Terminal Tower, Cleveland



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