Commons talk:Photographs of identifiable people/Draft 2015-16

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This is the page for discussing the 2015-16 proposals to re-write the Photographs of identifiable people guidelines.
  • Need to make clear that the laws and licence terms concerning the owner of the work-of-copyright (i.e. the photographer) -- freely used, commercial use allowed, permission explicitly declared -- are quite separate from those concerning the subject of the photograph. For example, the subject might not have given their consent, even if the photographer has, and the image might not be suitable to be used for promotional purposes.
  • Explain the confusion about "commercial" as the term is used differently by Creative Commons than it is by photo agencies wrt model release.
  • The existing Consent section covers more issues than the bullet-points on this draft (e.g. degree of consent, age of subject). ✓ Done --MichaelMaggs (talk) 13:30, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the Identification section is not the most urgent one (so doesn't deserve to be first). Most photos that fall into this guideline will be clearly identifiable subjects. ✓ Done --MichaelMaggs (talk) 13:22, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

-- Colin (talk) 18:57, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Model releases[edit]

See the initiative at meta:Grants:PEG/Wikimedia New York City/Legal review and templates for model release. It may be useful to incorporate some of that. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 06:04, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See comment by Carl Lindberg. I'm not sure there is much useful information in that proposal. It might, however, serve as an example of the sort of misunderstandings about the terms and Commons purpose that this guideline might clarify. -- Colin (talk) 10:29, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Country specific rules - limited list not useful[edit]

I think we should try to include as many countries as possible here (or on a separate page), regardless of whether the rules are stricter than ours or not. The reason is that a country missing may mean nobody knows. We could start with some countries with liberal legislation, to introduce a standard wording (à la "No (known) issues except those explained above") and a few with known issues. --LPfi (talk) 05:59, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In an other section a page about country-specific rules for reuse is mentioned. If we use that page also for the publishing/hosting issues, it may be enough to here only mention the countries with strict privacy laws (or strict privacy expectations) in regard to photography. In that case including the standard wording there, in a standard place, would be good. --LPfi (talk) 07:01, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that we could and should have a list of country-specific rules, but we ought to be clearer than we are as to whether a specific local rule (a) prevents us from hosting an image on Commons or (b) whether it restricts possible re-use. The former should be part of this guideline/policy; the latter should be for information only, and should be on a different (help) page. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 15:33, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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